並前往https://podcasts.apple.com/tw/podcast/%E8%B2%A1%E7%B6%93%E4%B8%80%E8%B7%AF%E7%99%BC-ky%E6%B7%AA%E7%82%BA%E6%96%B0%E8%A9%90%E9%A8%99%E5%B7%A5%E5%85%B7-%E5%BE%9E-%E6%98%94%E6%97%A5%E8%82%A1%E5%90%8E-%E5%BA%B7%E5%8F%8B%E4%B8%8B%E5%B8%82%E7%9C%8B%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E9%81%BF%E9%96%8B%E6%8A%95%E8%B3%87%E9%BB%91%E5%9D%91/id1486227803?i=1000516508202